Q. Nehemia Gordon, a Karaite Jew, has now discovered over 1,000 manuscripts with the proper pronunciation Yehovah. Considering this newfound evidence, why do you continue to use Yahweh?
A. There are several facts to acknowledge regarding Nehemia Gordon’s “new” finding. To begin with it’s not new. Secondly, all these Hebrew documents with the vowel points forming Yehovah are from the 9th century or later and part of the Masoretic manuscripts, i.e. Leningrad Codex, Aleppo Codex. According to the overwhelming majority of scholarship, the Masoretes purposefully added the vowel points from Adonai to the Tetragrammaton, forming the hybrid Yehovah (also rendered as Yehowah or Jehovah). First we need to clarify where these vowels come from. The Masoretes were not trying to preserve the name but replace the name with Adonai and Elohim through an orthographic device called Kativ Qere. This device is used in every synagogue every Sabbath as the torah is read. (See full vowels of Adonai vs. Elohim) To date we have never seen a scholarly reference or historic document from before the medieval timeframe confirming Yehovah.
Consider the following: “In the early Middle Ages, when the consonantal text of the Bible was supplied with vowel points to facilitate its correct traditional reading, the vowel points for Adonai with one variation – a sheva (short ‘e’) with the first yod [Y] of YHWH instead of the hataf-patah (short ‘a’) under the aleph of Adonai – was used for YHWH, thus producing the form YeHoWaH. When Christian scholars of Europe first began to study Hebrew they did not understand what this really meant, and they introduced the hybrid name ‘Jehovah’” (Encyclopedia Judaica, vol. 7, p. 680).
“Jehovah, modern form of the Hebrew sacred name of God, probably originally ‘Yahweh.’ From c.300 B.C. the Jews, from motives of piety, uttered the name of God very rarely and eventually not at all, but substituted the title ‘Adonai,’ meaning ‘Lord,’ the vowels of which were written under the consonants of ‘Yahweh.’ In the Middle Ages and later, the vowels of one word with the consonants of the other were misread as Jehovah” (The Collegiate Encyclopedia, vol. 9, p. 580).
“Jehovah….What has been said explains the so-called qeri perpetuum, according to which the consonants of Jehovah are always accompanied in the Hebrew text by the vowels of Adonai except in the cases in which Adonai stands in apposition to Jehovah: in these cases the vowels of Elohim are substituted. The use of a simple shewa in the first syllable of Jehovah, instead of the compound shewa in the corresponding syllable of Adonai and Elohim, is required by the rules of Hebrew grammar governing the use of Shewa” (The Catholic Encyclopedia, vol. VIII, p. 329).
“Jehovah, an erroneous pronunciation of the name of the God of Israel in the Bible, due to pronouncing the vowels of the term ‘Adonay,’ the marginal Masoretic reading with the consonants of the text-reading ‘Yahweh,’ which was not uttered to avoid the profanation of the divine name of magical or other blasphemous purposes. Hence the substitution of ‘Adonay,’ the ‘Lord,’ or ‘Adonay Elohim,’ ‘Lord God.’ The oldest Greek versions use the term ‘Kurios,’ ‘Lord,’ the exact translation of the current Jewish substitute for the original Tetragrammaton Yahweh. The reading ‘Jehovah’ can be traced to the early Middle Ages and until lately was said to have been invented by Peter Gallatin (1518), confessor of Pope Leo X. Recent writers, however, trace it to an earlier date; it is found in Raymond Martin’s Pugeo Fidei (1270)” (Encyclopedia Americana, vol. 16, p. 8.).
“The pronunciation you mentioned [i.e., Yehovah] is a mistake. The Hebrew consonantal text is YHWH and no one really knows how that was pronounced in Old Testament times. At a later date (the latter half of the 2nd millennium CE) Masoretes added vowel signs to the consonantal text. Whenever the Tetragrammaton was written, they added the vowel signs of the word “Adonay,” which means “My Lord” – there was a taboo on pronouncing the Divine name and one was supposed to read the word “Adonay – my Lord.” Much later some started reading the vowel signs together with YHWH and came up with the nonsensical word Jehovah” (email correspondence between Professor Fassberg and Pastor Randy Folliard). Note: Professor Fassberg, Ph.D., is one of the leading professors at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem within its Hebrew language department.
In addition to the fact that scholarship nearly universally confirms that the Masoretes added the vowel points from Adonai to the Tetragrammaton, another issue with Yehovah is that there are other variants based on the vowel pointing within the Masoretic manuscripts. For example, the Leningrad Codex contains at least six different spellings for the divine name. Similar evidence can also be found within the Aleppo and other codices. The fact that we find different pronunciations within the Masoretic manuscripts confirms that they cannot be trusted.
Another issue with Yehovah and this claim of a 1,000 manuscripts is that the pronunciation Yahweh is confirmed within Greek documents from church fathers and Gnostic writings 700 years before the Masoretic documents.
One such example from the Gnostic library is The Secret Book of John. Within this codex, it mentions the name Yahweh and notes, “Eloim and Yawe, two names of God in the Hebrew scriptures…. Yahweh is the name of God (based on the Tetragrammaton, the ineffable four-letter name)” (Dr. Marvin Meyer, The Nag Hammadi Scriptures, p. 127).
The Secret Book of John dates to the second century, as it was known to the church father Irenaeus. This was the same timeframe as Clement of Alexandria, who also confirmed the name. Even though Gnosticism was rightly deemed heretical by the early church, it is another witness to the pronunciation of Yahweh. The fact that these groups were at odds, but agreed on “Yahweh,” is significant and adds credence to this pronunciation. It verifies that “Yahweh” was widely recognized as early as the second century.
Evidence for the short form “Yah” is also found in early Greek documents of the Septuagint, part of the Dead Sea collection, dating to 1 BCE.
Based on these facts, the number of manuscripts found with the vowel points of Yehovah is irrelevant. Scholarship confirms that Yehovah is a hybrid that arose through the vowel points of Adonai. Additionally, antiquity confirms the pronunciation Yahweh through Greek inscriptions dating back to the 2nd century CE, 700 years before any manuscript containing Yehovah.
For additional information, read our online article: The Yehovah Deception.
Also, watch our videos:
I understand a manuscript of Mathew has been found that is written in Hebrew and shows the vowel points for YaHoVa not Yaweh-this was introduced by Michael Rood–your comment on this would be appreciated and why do you want to discredit Nehemia Gordon? You showed no valued proof only heresay,I have Don’s bible and he uses the name Yahweh all thru his texts-which I found no trouble with.-which leads me to think something is amiss in using him as a reference.It makes me no difference how people use His name -it won’t cause loss or gain of salvation either way-I… Read more »
Of course the Hebrew Matthew has Yehovah in it, it is a late text. It was written after 894 A.D., which is when they started using the vowel pointing. It is the same thing with every other mss Gordon has found. There is ZERO proof of Yehovah prior to 894 A.D. Every time the vowel pointing for Adoani was used in the Tetragrammaton, the Masoretes “knew” they were to vocalize “Adonai,” not amalgamate the vowels with the Tetragrammaton. It is well known in scholarship that only the ignorant would read the name Yahowah (Yehovah). We can also find the vowel-pointing… Read more »
Your reason given for the behavior of Gordon is the same one I came up with several years ago. How can anyone listen to one that doesn’t believe in Yahshua? In addition, ‘all’ Jews don’t want the Father’s real name to be known and this Yehovah name should be regarded as a decoy to hide the truth.
Further, when one takes apart the name of Yehovah, one finds it represents wickedness, perverseness, etc all characteristics that are certainly NOT of Elohim.
There is also a Hebrew Luke and 4 pages from John in Hebrew as well. You would know that if you were a pure researcher. It’s hard to kick against the prick.
Research Nehemiah Gordon on YouTube and let go if your bias.
Nehemia doesn’t even believe the NT is inspired so why follow him concerning it? We have also researched the Hebrew Luke and it is full of mistakes and inaccuracies.
There is an article, written by John K. McKee, titled “Is the Hebrew Matthew
an Authentic Document?”, that shows that Nehemia Gordon is in error regarding this.
You can download it from here:
http://yahweh.house/Is_the_Hebrew_Matthew_an_Authentic_Document_TORAH.pdf
(Note: He uses Yeshua and not the correct Yahshua).
Shalom,
Yeremyah
Good answer and I like the fact that you revealed the source of the manuscripts.Defiantly can’t put our faith In an Individual like Mr.Gordan.
A few of your refutation points are entirely invalid. The “Gnostic library” citation is worthless. You can’t attack (ad hominem at that) Gordon for not being Messianic and therefore untrustworthy when you’re citing texts from a heretical movement (Gnosticism IS heresy). And the last point, regarding Gordon being a Karaite… that’s an ad hominem attack… “Attack the speaker not his message” which is generally a tactic used to dismiss a person without discussing their comment and/or statements- While you DID do that above, this tactic is low-brow and tends to be reserved for those without confidence in their position or without sufficient… Read more »
Quick question,
Do you consider the dead sea scrolls valid? Or do you consider anyone that uses them heretics? We await your response with baited breath.
Honestly your attitude puts me off. People who truly seek God’s will ought to be enlightening others with an attitude bringing forth as much evidence as possible in a non attacking manner.
Responding with sarcasm does not help your cause. It only makes you look childish
We apologize if we were heated in the prior comment. But we do still want to hear your response.
They are valid.
Some friends had recommended Rood, but I couldn’t watch more than a few minutes, as they tried to sell their “products” on the Sabbath. I mentioned this and the friends said, well you choose whether to buy on the Sabbath or not. True, but for a “ministry” to market their wares on Sabbath is a No for me. And I definitely do not trust the teachings of someone who denies the Messiah. I do however trust the teachings of YRM as they line up with scripture.
Nehemia Gordon’s associations are really most unfortunate. A short clip of him explaining his ideas about the Name is shown in a German film about Jehovah’s Witnesses, The name of God. I tried to warn him that this would do his reputation no good, but it seems he was happy that his ‘friends’ agreed with him on the Name. He is also, as already pointed out, associated with Michael Rood, a most disreputable character with a history of false prophecies and past association with a cult called The Way International. In trying to research Gordon’s claims it has been so… Read more »
Thank you for your kind words. You are right, those two are hard to do proper research on. As you stated most things online seem to lead you back to their articles and homepages.
Thank you Michael Thomas for your words of truth about Mr. Rood. I have expressed the same to people I love in Hope’s the seeds will lead them also to truth about Mr. Rood.
Blessings from Payson AZ Sherri
If you want to know more about Michael Rood, check out a YouTube video titled Michael Rood exposed. I watched it recently and it discusses his associations in his early years with The Way and why he left that organization.
Not even once in any hebrew manuscripts are the Yahweh, what is your suource that creator’s name is Yahweh? At least Nehemiah thuosends of hebrew documents with full wowel and I think 4000 times in Aleppo codex with YeH-VaH with the missing wowel. What’s your suource for Yahweh ? So be careful what you say and think about His name!
So he found all these documents with Yehovah, We are not arguing that. Our question is Why is Yehovah in all these documents and NOT in anything before 894 A.D? Why do nearly all Hebrew scholars disagree with Nehemiah? If his “Research” is so rock solid that it cant be questioned, why aren’t Hebrew scholars lining up to endorse his position? You mentioned the Aleppo codex, what makes Yehovah correct? Especially when there are several spellings present in said codex? Tell me, what makes Yehovah more correct than the others? Lastly, a quote from the Jewish encyclopedia, Jehovah – “A… Read more »
Can you explain, if the pronunciation Yehovah is not correct, why the following names composed with the Name of the God of Israel have the pronunciation Yeho? Yehoaddan (2 Cro 25:1) Yehoajaz (2 Re 10:35) Yehoash (2 Re 11:21) Yehojanan (1 Cro 26:3) Yehoiakin (2 Re 24:6) Yehoiada (2 Samuel 8:18) Yehoiakim (2 Re 23:34) Yehoiarib (1 Cro 9:10) Yehonadab (2 Re 10:15) Yehonatan (1 Cro27:25) Yehoram (1 Re 22:50) Yehosef (Sal 81:5/6) Yehoshabeat (2 Cro 22:11) Yehoshafat (2 Sa 8:16) Yehosheba (2 Re 11:2) Yehoshua (Nm 13:16) Yehozabad (2 Re 12:21) Yehozadak (1 Cro 6:14) These names have not… Read more »
Akkadian Tablets Reveal “Yah” Another strike against the “Yeh” prefix in Yehovah is that we find many Jewish names with the theophoric element “Yah” and “Yahu” dating to 572-477 BCE in Akkadian cuneiform tablets, a language cognate to Hebrew. Examples of such names include: Yahadil, Yahitu, Yahmuzu, Yahuazar, Yahuazza, and Yahuhin. YRM recently contacted several professors through email inquiring about these names and received the following responses. Professor Ran Zadok from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem who specializes in Mesopotamian, Iranian and Judaic Studies, confirmed, “It seems to me that the cuneiform spellings render approximately *Ya(h)w” (see similar rendering on… Read more »
He did not “find” all those documents. He was a authorized intern to vet the manuscripts
May YAHWEH bless you for the good work you are doing. Shalom.
this already clear for many years….http://www.divine-name.info/index.htm
What I do not understand is how any one can just go on a “most likely”? In other words, since all we have is YHWH, then no one knows what His name is. And who did the Jews think they were to take away the name? It’s not up to them to prevent people from breaking the 3rd commandment. Why not take away all the commandments so that no one could sin? They say they took it away so that no one could profane it, but that’s not up to them. That’s between God and the sinner. In conclusion, YHWH… Read more »
Nehemiah Gordon is not a heretic, and he has not “denied” the Messiah; however, he has not yet acknowledged Him, claiming to be an agnostic Karaite. He doesn’t deserve character assassination. Everyone, please speak your truths with love, Let’s appreciate Nehemiah’s research efforts and search for truth. God’s grace teaches us to live soberly, righteously and godly in this present age. We also should watch what we speak out of our mouths, being careful not to grieve the Holy Spirit with ungodly words.
Do you know what agnostic means? Because if THIS is true (and I am not sure it is), we would want NOTHING to do with him or his research. ag·nos·tic /aɡˈnästik/ noun 1. a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God. Furthermore, his “research” has not been peer reviewed by other scholars. (scholars with actual degrees in the field of linguistics.) Until that happens and he can present his “findings” and place them… Read more »
I have looked at the pronunciation of the Holy Name in Hebrew Grammar. See https://www.facebook.com/yahka.mba/posts/1037583256357589
I disagree with the invention of Yahweh, which has been created since Wilhelm Gesenius. I agree with Nehemia Gordon, who has studied Yehovah for over 20 years. I started publishing a Bible with Yehovah one year ago. Here it is: http://buchererpianos.ch/YEHOVAH-BIBLIA-INDEX.html
Ok, thanks for presenting my former article again. You then can delete my remark here now.
Please listen to Nehemiah Gordon’s testimony on how he interned as a aide to vet the Hebrew manuscripts when he found the Name Yehowah/Yehovah (which had been left in certain places in the scripts).
Ask The LORD to teach you and lead you AS HE HAS PROMISED – Matthew 23:8-10, before you believe anything. The site is presented as though it will allow people to freely comment. If any person chooses to be dishonest in this matter may The Justice of The LORD prevail.
Yes, we are aware of how he came to his knowledge of the name Yehovah, it is not new information. He is simply sensationalizing information that has been available for many decades. He stands alone against nearly every other Hebrew linguistic scholar in the world. What he is saying is not some new found revolutionary idea or theory. What he is saying has been gone over by people with far greater credentials than Nehemia in the field of Linguistics. We are following linguistic scholarship, and linguistic scholarship is nearly unanimously against what Nehemia is teaching. Reach out and ask the… Read more »
First off let me say that am not saying I agree with Gordon’s findings, but I also don’t agree with the reasons given for Yahweh. That being said, here is my question/statement. You mention in some of your responses on here that it isn’t wise to trust/use someone who doesn’t believe in the Messiah as a source of information (and I see the merit in that) yet at the same time you seem to put a lot of stock (if not total trust) in the “scholars” who also don’t believe in the Messiah to prove your point. Now if these… Read more »
Is it true that scribes when writing the most Highs name would tear out that section if it was at all misspelled? And attach new parchment. So not writing in ALL the vowels would be intended to not blaspheme his name and because all the vowels were added in some portions and left alone would mean his name would be correct as Yehovah? If the vowels were to over mislead to not use his name correctly then having it say Yehovah and leaving it in place would mean they spelt it correctly and wouldn’t dare change something that was correct.… Read more »
Yehovah is only one of several pronunciations in the Masoretic text. For example, the Leningrad codex, a codex that many advocates of Yehovah rely on, contains additional Hebrew spellings. Below are six examples where the Divine name contains different vowel points (transliteration approximate): יְהוָה – Yehwah (Genesis 2:4) יְהֹוָה – Yehowah (Genesis 3:14) יֱהֹוִה – Yehowih (Judges 16:28) יֱהוִה – Yehuwih (Genesis 15:2) יְהֹוִה – Yehowih (1Kings 2:26) יְהוִה – Yehwih (Ezekiel 24:24) All of these are in the Main Codex, which of these is correct? Why is Yehovah the only one that is Valid? Has everyone forgotten that the… Read more »
I imagine you have alot more to lose if you are wrong on his name spelling. All your bibles. All your teaching. What would nehemiah lose if he was wrong? I don’t watch michael roode but why is he being smashed because of past affiliation? I am curious of your past lifestyle before following yeshua? Would it be ok to hold that against you? I bought your bible 8 years ago. Some of your commentary changes an unchanging God pertaining to statutes that are statutes forever. Pertaining to Temple services. Remember Matthew 5:17 is to be reminded of towards everyone… Read more »
What “past affiliation” did we bring up? We didn’t say anything about Rood that isn’t true. Honestly, even what we did say is hardly “character assassination”.
Ezekiel 7:26 and Isaiah 47:11 has the word Hovah ho-vaw meaning disaster in Hebrew הָוה any where in Hebrew you see this letter it always sounds like V not like W and you go to Greek and Gnostic sources plus the another ones in pagan religions to force the pronounce Weh i’m yah weh No doubt yahu was used as well as pronunciation of the Divine name, but this Yahweh pronounce it is just … Nehemia Gordon, has now discovered over 1,000 manuscripts with the proper pronunciation Yehovah. Considering this newfound evidence, plus many More or you be humble and… Read more »
Ezekiel 7:26 and Isaiah 47:11 in the interlinear clearly shows the transliteration phonetic equivalent of “W” respectively. See Biblehub online and use the interlinear function. It’s interesting that you even bring up the word “Hovah” which means trouble, mischief, or Ruin as any possible connection with the Heavenly Father’s name. This alone should clearly disprove it. First and foremost, not ONE ancient Semitic language uses a “v” sound for the 6th letter. Not Aramaic, Syriac, Ge’ez, Phoenician, Arabic etc. All these languages are related and evolved from one common language. This alone clearly disproves any connection with the “v” sound… Read more »
Good info. Additionally, in the Dead Sea scrolls are the Tetragrammaton in paleo-Hebrew in a few places in copies of the (Greek) Septuagint. And the paleo-Hebrew alphabet and Greek alphabet (which has for all intents and purposes stayed the same) are so similar as to be practically the same.
I found that the paleo-Hebrew letter W in the Tetragrammaton corresponds to the (now-retired) Greek letter Digamma which has a wau, waw sound.
1000 times more evidence than is available for Yahweh. Nehemia has already exposed the origin of Yahweh. If it was God’s name we shall use it but there is no honest reason to.
Literally every single piece of evidence from NG is dated from the 9th century onward. He is duping the ignorant. He stands alone against the entirety of Hebrew scholarship. If his “proof” is so rock solid, why isn’t he giving talks and turning the Hebrew speaking world on it’s head? Why doesn’t this earthshattering “proof” literally everywhere?
You said it! I am grateful for your work. Thanks. God Bless. What do you think of : The Septuagint Exodus 3:14 And God spoke to Moses, saying, I Am He Who Is [ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν (ego eimi ho on)]; and he said, Thus shall ye say to the children of Israel, He Who Is has sent me to you. ὁ (ho) masc., ἡ fem. (hē), τό neuter (tó) – (relative, Epic, Ionic, poetic Attic) who, which, that. ὤν (ṓn) – 1. present participle of εἰμί (eimí). 2. actual, real. St. Justin Martyr, First Apology, Chapter 6, [circa 150 AD]… Read more »
So this guy wants me to believe that only HE had access to these manuscripts (and no one else) and was translating them for the first time ever? Then to go further and say that one of the Rabbis that worked to hide God’s name was one of his direct ancestors?
I know BS when I see it
you guys are the problem with the so called “messianic” movement today. People like Nehemia ( and there are plenty of others…Keith Johnson, Brad Scott, Jeff Benner, Skip Moen) are Hebrew scholars, textual critics and understand the history and culture of the Jewish people and language far ahead of any wanna be self proclaimed leaders in the western culture who think they know more than these people. You are so deceived and arrogant! You are misleading so many people because of your pride and lack of wisdom.
What is interesting, is that we are only relaying what information we get from Scholars like Miles Van pelt, Dr. Steven Fassberg and other who have actual Degrees in Hebrew linguistics. Keith Johnson has “has completed an intensive Hebrew language course at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.” (From his own website) I’m sure the course is great…but it isn’t like a PhD in linguistics. You state “textual critics and understand the history and culture of the Jewish people and language far ahead of any wanna be self proclaimed leaders in the western culture who think they know more than these people.”… Read more »